As for Message #8, I’ve sort of been suggesting the same thing in a way. Why can’t we start saber rattling and threatening to sue the Feds for environmental destruction, etc? That way, after all the namecalling and threats, we all end up in a settlement whereby Long Beach is “willing” to take over jurisdiction of the Breakwater and adjust it if necessary? And yes, if that means that the engineers can create a great surf spot as well as more mundane “mother’s beach” type areas with little surf, so be it.

Long Beach will get rich when the breakwater comes down.

As for Message #8, I’ve sort of been suggesting the same thing in a way. Why can’t we start saber rattling and threatening to sue the Feds for environmental destruction, etc? That way, after all the namecalling and threats, we all end up in a settlement whereby Long Beach is “willing” to take over jurisdiction of the Breakwater and adjust it if necessary? And yes, if that means that the engineers can create a great surf spot as well as more mundane “mother’s beach” type areas with little surf, so be it.

Long Beach will get rich when the breakwater comes down.

Connoly Pacific made millions providing the rock from Catalina, they should donate dredge and crane work to lower some of it, below the mean low tide line, to function like a far offshore reef. The openings should be gradually widened too.

The Feds have limited funds to make a huge deal out of stopping us as well.

And for paranoid laymen in the shore, check the true site elevation in the shore and on the peninsula as compared to the 3 gorgeous communities to the South , we are high and safe compared to the little flood spot in Sunset Beach.

Not enthusiastically embracing this due to false fear is yet one more reason thousands think DeLong…..is Wrong….again and again…and again.

Sorry re the MSP”S

For years, this city has touted its “safe & non-threatening beach” to beach-goers with small children, omitting the section that is most vital: “unless your kids want to get in the water.”

I have no idea who was on the this commission and/or who drafted this report, but the recommendations of this group are bizarre.

In the report, that section referenced in post #6 is called “The Empty Quarter”– west of the Belmont Pier until the Villa Riviera.

Here is the full text of the report’s executive summary:

“Of the 5 1/2 miles of beach front in Long Beach, it is noted that 4 miles of the ocean beach is [are] under utilized. Contrary to this observation is the Mother’s Beach development in Alamitos Bay, which has proven to be very popular. The apparent reasons for this popularity include tranquil water for small children, ease of access and nearby parking, along with shaded grassy areas for picnicking which prove attractive to a wide range of ages. Another area experiencing popular use is in the downtown area where the water is tranquil in the protection of the near shore oil island. At this location, the width of beach sand from the waters edge to the back of the sand area is more than 400 feet, however, the utilized portion of the sand area is less than 100 feet. In comparing this pattern of the width of active beach usage, it is apparent that much of our beach, measuring up to 800 feed width, is unused. Several potential ideas to increase beach use are provided in concept. It is suggested that the City consider initiating efforts to pursue these or other ideas to enhance the utilization of these beach areas.”

As far as I know, nothing has come of this report.

However, I think this commission is missing the point: People in Long Beach use mother’s beach, not because of its tranquility and grass, but because they have no other choice but to swim in the mouth and at the ass of the most polluted river in America. Talk about oversight!

I completely agree with you that the city has failed to ‘work with what they got.’
My theory is that city representatives foresee a slew of issues that would demand money and attention immediately after someone prettied-up the beach–parking, refuse, security, etc…. No one wants to touch the subject.

But if it’s any consolation, I hear they’re adding a separate pedestrian walking lane next to the bike path. Apparently, too many small children are crossing that 8-inch line that divides strolling humans and whizzing-by bikes. Couldn’t have seen that one coming…