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	<title>Comments on: CHAMBER&#8217;S GORDON LOSES ELLIS RECALL BID&#8211;BUT STILL &#8216;THE MAYOR&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, don&#039;t forget that many heard how rotten Ellis is, over and over, from the Chamber union, and how he HAD to go.

Don&#039;t believe that informed people won&#039;t think less of gordon and his union after their sorry bail-out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, don&#8217;t forget that many heard how rotten Ellis is, over and over, from the Chamber union, and how he HAD to go.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t believe that informed people won&#8217;t think less of gordon and his union after their sorry bail-out.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, don&#039;t forget that many heard how rotten Ellis is, over and over, from the Chamber union, and how he HAD to go.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Don&#039;t believe that informed people won&#039;t think less of gordon and his union after their sorry bail-out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, don&#8217;t forget that many heard how rotten Ellis is, over and over, from the Chamber union, and how he HAD to go.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t believe that informed people won&#8217;t think less of gordon and his union after their sorry bail-out.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. The chamber (of horrors) should dump this &quot;annoying&quot; (doug krikorians word) hypocrite before his rabid-dog behaviour bites it in the ass. I think he feels he&#039;s invincible due to his limited past successes. Certainly members of his union don&#039;t want to be painted by the same brush that he&#039;s been busy painting himself with. How do you think his members will feel when their position welcoming Port pollution, pollution that affectes Long Beach schoolchildren, becomes well-publicized? 

I know Teachers who I would bet are amazing with their classroom kids, who have devoted years to teaching, who support TALB to this day. They tell me they would have had the 1% non-retroactive raise had it not been for TALB, when they received the 4% retroactive raise. I feel our Teachers are way underpaid, and it infuriated me that the LBUSD wanted to shortchange them the last time around. Additionally, the proposal for an &quot;Inspector General&quot; in the LBUSD made a lot of sense. Too bad the powers that be aren&#039;t interested in someone looking over their shoulder. See what Laura Doud is accomplishing in the city?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. The chamber (of horrors) should dump this &#8220;annoying&#8221; (doug krikorians word) hypocrite before his rabid-dog behaviour bites it in the ass. I think he feels he&#8217;s invincible due to his limited past successes. Certainly members of his union don&#8217;t want to be painted by the same brush that he&#8217;s been busy painting himself with. How do you think his members will feel when their position welcoming Port pollution, pollution that affectes Long Beach schoolchildren, becomes well-publicized? </p>
<p>I know Teachers who I would bet are amazing with their classroom kids, who have devoted years to teaching, who support TALB to this day. They tell me they would have had the 1% non-retroactive raise had it not been for TALB, when they received the 4% retroactive raise. I feel our Teachers are way underpaid, and it infuriated me that the LBUSD wanted to shortchange them the last time around. Additionally, the proposal for an &#8220;Inspector General&#8221; in the LBUSD made a lot of sense. Too bad the powers that be aren&#8217;t interested in someone looking over their shoulder. See what Laura Doud is accomplishing in the city?</p>
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		<title>By: John Galt</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Galt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,

You were in Mexico too long to understand this in a big picture sense.  The Chamber has always been a loser until 2007, with many losses, and most always thought that a Chamber endorsment was the kiss of death.  They were contunally defeated until the unions had other things to do than support the policies monetarily.  This &quot;win&quot; was a lucky draw for the chamber, as all Chamber insiders were girding for a loss with labor peace agreement and the wal-mart deal.  Just ask anybody on the inside of the Chamber how confident they were before Schipske pulled her vote.

As for Ellis, this is not a loss for Gordon.  They have lost before, but they pound it into the ground until they can&#039;t go anymore, then they spin it into a win.  No, this was a calculated win for them.  The only reason why the Chamber came out on top in the School Board elections is because MIchael Ellis is on the Board.

WIthout Michael Ellis, TALB is stronger.  On the board, TALB is weak and split.  The Chamber needs Michael Ellis.

I like you Dave, but trust someone who has been around, this was a calculated decision.  The day before the election, the Chamber was still ready to pump money intogetting signatures.  They need, and want Ellis on the board.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p>You were in Mexico too long to understand this in a big picture sense.  The Chamber has always been a loser until 2007, with many losses, and most always thought that a Chamber endorsment was the kiss of death.  They were contunally defeated until the unions had other things to do than support the policies monetarily.  This &#8220;win&#8221; was a lucky draw for the chamber, as all Chamber insiders were girding for a loss with labor peace agreement and the wal-mart deal.  Just ask anybody on the inside of the Chamber how confident they were before Schipske pulled her vote.</p>
<p>As for Ellis, this is not a loss for Gordon.  They have lost before, but they pound it into the ground until they can&#8217;t go anymore, then they spin it into a win.  No, this was a calculated win for them.  The only reason why the Chamber came out on top in the School Board elections is because MIchael Ellis is on the Board.</p>
<p>WIthout Michael Ellis, TALB is stronger.  On the board, TALB is weak and split.  The Chamber needs Michael Ellis.</p>
<p>I like you Dave, but trust someone who has been around, this was a calculated decision.  The day before the election, the Chamber was still ready to pump money intogetting signatures.  They need, and want Ellis on the board.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. The chamber (of horrors) should dump this &quot;annoying&quot; (doug krikorians word) hypocrite before his rabid-dog behaviour bites it in the ass. I think he feels he&#039;s invincible due to his limited past successes. Certainly members of his union don&#039;t want to be painted by the same brush that he&#039;s been busy painting himself with. How do you think his members will feel when their position welcoming Port pollution, pollution that affectes Long Beach schoolchildren, becomes well-publicized? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I know Teachers who I would bet are amazing with their classroom kids, who have devoted years to teaching, who support TALB to this day. They tell me they would have had the 1% non-retroactive raise had it not been for TALB, when they received the 4% retroactive raise. I feel our Teachers are way underpaid, and it infuriated me that the LBUSD wanted to shortchange them the last time around. Additionally, the proposal for an &quot;Inspector General&quot; in the LBUSD made a lot of sense. Too bad the powers that be aren&#039;t interested in someone looking over their shoulder. See what Laura Doud is accomplishing in the city?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. The chamber (of horrors) should dump this &#8220;annoying&#8221; (doug krikorians word) hypocrite before his rabid-dog behaviour bites it in the ass. I think he feels he&#8217;s invincible due to his limited past successes. Certainly members of his union don&#8217;t want to be painted by the same brush that he&#8217;s been busy painting himself with. How do you think his members will feel when their position welcoming Port pollution, pollution that affectes Long Beach schoolchildren, becomes well-publicized? </p>
<p>I know Teachers who I would bet are amazing with their classroom kids, who have devoted years to teaching, who support TALB to this day. They tell me they would have had the 1% non-retroactive raise had it not been for TALB, when they received the 4% retroactive raise. I feel our Teachers are way underpaid, and it infuriated me that the LBUSD wanted to shortchange them the last time around. Additionally, the proposal for an &#8220;Inspector General&#8221; in the LBUSD made a lot of sense. Too bad the powers that be aren&#8217;t interested in someone looking over their shoulder. See what Laura Doud is accomplishing in the city?</p>
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		<title>By: John Galt</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Galt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You were in Mexico too long to understand this in a big picture sense.  The Chamber has always been a loser until 2007, with many losses, and most always thought that a Chamber endorsment was the kiss of death.  They were contunally defeated until the unions had other things to do than support the policies monetarily.  This &quot;win&quot; was a lucky draw for the chamber, as all Chamber insiders were girding for a loss with labor peace agreement and the wal-mart deal.  Just ask anybody on the inside of the Chamber how confident they were before Schipske pulled her vote.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for Ellis, this is not a loss for Gordon.  They have lost before, but they pound it into the ground until they can&#039;t go anymore, then they spin it into a win.  No, this was a calculated win for them.  The only reason why the Chamber came out on top in the School Board elections is because MIchael Ellis is on the Board.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;WIthout Michael Ellis, TALB is stronger.  On the board, TALB is weak and split.  The Chamber needs Michael Ellis.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I like you Dave, but trust someone who has been around, this was a calculated decision.  The day before the election, the Chamber was still ready to pump money intogetting signatures.  They need, and want Ellis on the board.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p>You were in Mexico too long to understand this in a big picture sense.  The Chamber has always been a loser until 2007, with many losses, and most always thought that a Chamber endorsment was the kiss of death.  They were contunally defeated until the unions had other things to do than support the policies monetarily.  This &#8220;win&#8221; was a lucky draw for the chamber, as all Chamber insiders were girding for a loss with labor peace agreement and the wal-mart deal.  Just ask anybody on the inside of the Chamber how confident they were before Schipske pulled her vote.</p>
<p>As for Ellis, this is not a loss for Gordon.  They have lost before, but they pound it into the ground until they can&#8217;t go anymore, then they spin it into a win.  No, this was a calculated win for them.  The only reason why the Chamber came out on top in the School Board elections is because MIchael Ellis is on the Board.</p>
<p>WIthout Michael Ellis, TALB is stronger.  On the board, TALB is weak and split.  The Chamber needs Michael Ellis.</p>
<p>I like you Dave, but trust someone who has been around, this was a calculated decision.  The day before the election, the Chamber was still ready to pump money intogetting signatures.  They need, and want Ellis on the board.</p>
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		<title>By: lbresident</title>
		<link>http://thedistrictweekly.com/2008/daily/writing-shotgun/chamber-ceo-gordon-loses-ellis-recall-bid-but-remains-the-mayor/comment-page-1/#comment-5144</link>
		<dc:creator>lbresident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know whether it sounds canned or not but I believe the union is not only bad for students, it is bad for good teachers.  Why good teachers support a structure that pays them the same as bad teachers I will never understand.  

Regardless, I&#039;m glad we agree that the real source of our educational problems is bad parents.  Parents who value education have children who value education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know whether it sounds canned or not but I believe the union is not only bad for students, it is bad for good teachers.  Why good teachers support a structure that pays them the same as bad teachers I will never understand.  </p>
<p>Regardless, I&#8217;m glad we agree that the real source of our educational problems is bad parents.  Parents who value education have children who value education.</p>
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		<title>By: lbresident</title>
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		<dc:creator>lbresident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know whether it sounds canned or not but I believe the union is not only bad for students, it is bad for good teachers.  Why good teachers support a structure that pays them the same as bad teachers I will never understand.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regardless, I&#039;m glad we agree that the real source of our educational problems is bad parents.  Parents who value education have children who value education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know whether it sounds canned or not but I believe the union is not only bad for students, it is bad for good teachers.  Why good teachers support a structure that pays them the same as bad teachers I will never understand.  </p>
<p>Regardless, I&#8217;m glad we agree that the real source of our educational problems is bad parents.  Parents who value education have children who value education.</p>
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		<title>By: A.A.</title>
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		<dc:creator>A.A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The LB Chamber&#039;s political program is OVERRATED.  They are just fortunate enough to have the PT as their no/low cost PR machine.  The truth of the matter is they consistently lose campaigns in the field, and the Ellis recall would have required a field strategy and able management of such.  How much money did Gordon and his yes men waste?  The Chamber should get away from the dark side and dump Lord Vador, Randy Gordon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The LB Chamber&#8217;s political program is OVERRATED.  They are just fortunate enough to have the PT as their no/low cost PR machine.  The truth of the matter is they consistently lose campaigns in the field, and the Ellis recall would have required a field strategy and able management of such.  How much money did Gordon and his yes men waste?  The Chamber should get away from the dark side and dump Lord Vador, Randy Gordon.</p>
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		<title>By: A.A.</title>
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		<dc:creator>A.A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The LB Chamber&#039;s political program is OVERRATED.  They are just fortunate enough to have the PT as their no/low cost PR machine.  The truth of the matter is they consistently lose campaigns in the field, and the Ellis recall would have required a field strategy and able management of such.  How much money did Gordon and his yes men waste?  The Chamber should get away from the dark side and dump Lord Vador, Randy Gordon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The LB Chamber&#8217;s political program is OVERRATED.  They are just fortunate enough to have the PT as their no/low cost PR machine.  The truth of the matter is they consistently lose campaigns in the field, and the Ellis recall would have required a field strategy and able management of such.  How much money did Gordon and his yes men waste?  The Chamber should get away from the dark side and dump Lord Vador, Randy Gordon.</p>
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